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One in 6 college women are victims of rape or attempted rape

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A former Washington D.C. prosecutor and national expert shared tips about dealing with domestic violence with about 100 students that gathered in the Spotts World Culture Building auditorium Thursday.

According to Valena Beety, date violence is most prominent in women 16-24 years old, making women on college campuses a primary target....

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E. Steven Berkimer

posted 11/19/09 @ 11:20 PM EST

While I certainly agree that rape is a serious issue, and rapists certainly deserve the full weight of the law that can be brought to bear, I have a question for Ms. Beety.

From what source does she draw the 1 in 6 figure, and if a rape isn't reported, how do you know that 85% of them didn't get reported? You don't know what you don't know.

And can we please stop using the lie that only 2 or 3% of reported rapes are false. This has been debunked too many times to continue to use. The FBI's numbers state that anywhere from 8% to 15% are "unfounded". Unfounded meaning that there wasn't enough evidence to support the claim. That doesn't include those that law enforcement determines to be blatantly false from the beginning.


According to Beety, if the victim is unconscious, or can't consent because he or she is drunk, it's considered rape.

I can't wait to start seeing all of the women that will be arrested and prosecuted for rape because they had sex with a man that was drunk. Can anyone honestly tell me that there has EVER been a case where this has happened?

Alan

posted 11/20/09 @ 12:24 PM EST

The girls around this town bring sexual assaults upon themselves. look at the way they dress, how intoxicated they get and the behavior they show when dressed and highly intoxicated! Stand outside Ginger Hill on a weekend night at closing time and observe! They come out of there barely able to walk, hanging on multiple men and occasionally start the making out process in public. Now what man would say no to a good looking girl, barely dressed and willing to take them home and get in to bed with them? What happens next is the girl wakes up realizing it was a mistake because she has a boyfriend and fears he will find out. How do you cover this up, tell the police you were sexually assaulted. It has and does happen, I know of people this happened to. Yes there are sexual predators out there that commit these crimes but there are a lot more that happen because of poor judgments. Stop getting drunk to the point you need helping walking, stop wearing skirts that barely cover your a$$ and stop leading on guys who themselves are intoxicated and the unwanted sexual experiences will stop also! Alcohol impairs your judgment in many ways including making good judgment calls on your sexual behavior!

Wow

posted 11/20/09 @ 2:59 PM EST

Originally posted by

Alan

The girls around this town bring sexual assaults upon themselves. look at the way they dress, how intoxicated they get and the behavior they show when dressed and highly intoxicated! Stand outside Ginger Hill on a weekend night at closing time and observe! They come out of there barely able to walk, hanging on multiple men and occasionally start the making out process in public. Now what man would say no to a good looking girl, barely dressed and willing to take them home and get in to bed with them? What happens next is the girl wakes up realizing it was a mistake because she has a boyfriend and fears he will find out. How do you cover this up, tell the police you were sexually assaulted. It has and does happen, I know of people this happened to. Yes there are sexual predators out there that commit these crimes but there are a lot more that happen because of poor judgments. Stop getting drunk to the point you need helping walking, stop wearing skirts that barely cover your a$$ and stop leading on guys who themselves are intoxicated and the unwanted sexual experiences will stop also! Alcohol impairs your judgment in many ways including making good judgment calls on your sexual behavior!

I'm sorry you feel we bring it on ourselves. I'll try to remember that the next time I'm being raped.

anonymous

posted 11/21/09 @ 2:22 PM EST

Originally posted by

Alan

The girls around this town bring sexual assaults upon themselves. look at the way they dress, how intoxicated they get and the behavior they show when dressed and highly intoxicated! Stand outside Ginger Hill on a weekend night at closing time and observe! They come out of there barely able to walk, hanging on multiple men and occasionally start the making out process in public. Now what man would say no to a good looking girl, barely dressed and willing to take them home and get in to bed with them? What happens next is the girl wakes up realizing it was a mistake because she has a boyfriend and fears he will find out. How do you cover this up, tell the police you were sexually assaulted. It has and does happen, I know of people this happened to. Yes there are sexual predators out there that commit these crimes but there are a lot more that happen because of poor judgments. Stop getting drunk to the point you need helping walking, stop wearing skirts that barely cover your a$$ and stop leading on guys who themselves are intoxicated and the unwanted sexual experiences will stop also! Alcohol impairs your judgment in many ways including making good judgment calls on your sexual behavior!


This is truly one of the most ignorant, asinine statements I have ever heard.

Jen

posted 11/22/09 @ 5:00 PM EST

I completely agree with Alan. Those of you saying that his statement is ridiculous are wrong. You can't even say that dressing provocatively and hanging all over men when you're completely wasted leads to rape because it doesn't. It leads to you going back to their place and having sex with them then waking up the next morning and not remembering what happened.

Dan

posted 11/23/09 @ 1:19 PM EST

I understand why people would be upset about Alan's post. I suppose one way to prove him wrong would be to look for different statstics about rape. How many of the women raped were wearing provacative clothing? How many were at a bar that night? How many have a past of similar behavior? What do men say who have raped women? Why do they do it? Was it what the were wearing? If they were just driven by a primal sex urge, why that woman (or man)?

I've looked into some of those, but not all, have you?

I am not supporting his post, nor speaking against it. There are certain statistics that we will never know, but it is intersting to think about.

No one deserves to be raped, and my heart goes out to everyone who it has happened to. But to adopt the mindset that changing your behavior and your style of dress would not have an effect on the probability of you being raped is ignorant.

Amy

posted 11/24/09 @ 12:19 PM EST

So I guess it's all what we wear, right? So four years ago when I was wearing a two piece bathing suit with a sarong around my waist in a beach house with my boyfriend's family, that was asking me to be raped. Hmm. I guess I shouldn't of worn a bathing suit to the beach. I thought I would have been safe with my boyfriend's family. I guess that's why my boyfriend's uncle sexually assaulted me that day. Thanks for pointing that out, Alan. I should have known better, right? No, wrong. HE should have known better. You don't force yourself on a girl regardless of what she wears.

James

posted 11/24/09 @ 10:42 PM EST

Sadly--for those narrow-minded fools who require them to be at peace--statistics are no match for common sense. As just one example: Any woman who knowingly and intentionally incapacitates herself by consuming alcohol, particularly in any non-familial social setting and even more so if others are drinking alcohol, is implicitly consenting to any AND everything which may or may not occur thereafter as a result. Now, if someone were to actually commit a crime against a drunk college student, such as murdering him or her, that's another story. (Frankly it would be an improvement; might as well get rid of those drama-queens--and kings--while it's easy). Our current system, wherein phenomenally-unintelligent legal decisions are made based on phenomenally-stupid personal decisions which were in no way "forced," is about as impressively designed as a cardboard box. Dan: quit being such a fucking moron.
Any who actually think that 1/6 of college women are victims are so far out of touch with reality that they might as well shout it out everywhere, as in this article... 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT CRAZY PEOPLE DO.

Not Josh

posted 11/30/09 @ 1:22 PM EST

Originally posted by

James

Sadly--for those narrow-minded fools who require them to be at peace--statistics are no match for common sense. As just one example: Any woman who knowingly and intentionally incapacitates herself by consuming alcohol, particularly in any non-familial social setting and even more so if others are drinking alcohol, is implicitly consenting to any AND everything which may or may not occur thereafter as a result. Now, if someone were to actually commit a crime against a drunk college student, such as murdering him or her, that's another story. (Frankly it would be an improvement; might as well get rid of those drama-queens--and kings--while it's easy). Our current system, wherein phenomenally-unintelligent legal decisions are made based on phenomenally-stupid personal decisions which were in no way "forced," is about as impressively designed as a cardboard box. Dan: quit being such a fucking moron.
Any who actually think that 1/6 of college women are victims are so far out of touch with reality that they might as well shout it out everywhere, as in this article... 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT CRAZY PEOPLE DO.



Haha, He said "fucking".

Easton Movers

posted 12/02/09 @ 12:50 PM EST

Wow, those are some staggering statistics. You guys have a good discussion going on here and I think both sides have some valid points. It's an extremely serious issue, and I wouldn't go so far as to say that they bring it upon themselves because there is no excuse for raping someone, but certainly the provocative clothing, inebriation and suggestive actions are all contributing factors.

anonymous

posted 12/03/09 @ 10:16 PM EST

First of all, I think it is truly sad that there are people like you who believe that women ask to be raped. Women should be able to walk down the street in mini-skirts and tank tops without having to worry about being assaulted. If a woman chooses to go out and have a few drinks, she should be able to do so and trust the people whom she is with to not take her home and rape her. (Or worry about some dirtbag assaulting her) You really should think before you make such ignorant statements.
Do you have a sister, a mother, a girlfriend? Do you know anyone who was raped? Do you have ANY idea of the traumatic pain and suffering that not only the victim endures, but by his/her family as well?? Because I DO.

It is terrible that we live in a society where people actually convince themselves that anyone deserves to be raped. Women don't need to change the way they dress- those who commit these crimes need to change THEIR WAYS. It is NEVER the victim's fault, and people need to get that into their heads...This is a huge reason so many are afraid to come forward about being raped- because there are people like you who try and convince them that they are at fault.

Somehow I think if you were a woman, maybe you'd get a clue. (Probably not though)My heart goes out to anyone- male OR female that has ever been sexually assaulted or raped.

Alan

posted 12/04/09 @ 3:09 PM EST

Originally posted by

anonymous

First of all, I think it is truly sad that there are people like you who believe that women ask to be raped. Women should be able to walk down the street in mini-skirts and tank tops without having to worry about being assaulted. If a woman chooses to go out and have a few drinks, she should be able to do so and trust the people whom she is with to not take her home and rape her. (Or worry about some dirtbag assaulting her) You really should think before you make such ignorant statements.
Do you have a sister, a mother, a girlfriend? Do you know anyone who was raped? Do you have ANY idea of the traumatic pain and suffering that not only the victim endures, but by his/her family as well?? Because I DO.

It is terrible that we live in a society where people actually convince themselves that anyone deserves to be raped. Women don't need to change the way they dress- those who commit these crimes need to change THEIR WAYS. It is NEVER the victim's fault, and people need to get that into their heads...This is a huge reason so many are afraid to come forward about being raped- because there are people like you who try and convince them that they are at fault.

Somehow I think if you were a woman, maybe you'd get a clue. (Probably not though)My heart goes out to anyone- male OR female that has ever been sexually assaulted or raped.


There is a difference to what you and I are saying. Yes you can wear a mini skirt and tank top and go out with friends and have a "FEW" drinks. What I am saying is the females that wear clothing that their boobs and ass are hanging out having a ton to drink to the point they need assistance walking and hang all over guys in and outside of the bar and go home with them or take them home are the ones that become easy pray to guys. Some men force them selves upon these women, YES, but when you have an extremely intoxicated female and male that meet at the bar, your ability to make good judgments go down hill. What drunk male would say no to a one night stand with a good looking drunk female or what drunk female would say no to a one night stand with a drunk good looking male. After one of these drunken one night stands are over with you realize it was a mistake, or afraid your boyfriend may find out, you report it as a rape. I have a female friend that did this, after putting the guy through hell by being arrested, having a rape kit done and grilled by police, she admitted she lied to protect her relationship. On the other hand I have two friends that were legitimately raped and one guy is currently in prison. Whether you think my comments are ignorant asinine or rude, wake up and face the facts, your social behavior and dress DO play a part in these crimes. If you are going to go to the bar get plastered and dress in skimpy clothes, do it with a group of friends, have a sober friend there with you that will look after you! NO MAN OR WOMEN DESERVES TO BE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BUT YOU CAN PREVENT IT BY BEING RESPONSIBLE OF YOUR ACTION IN AN ATMOSPHERE LIKE A BAR OR A PARY!
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